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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-27 (So), 19:45    Titel: X-3D-BL upgrade: FunPilot installation Antworten mit Zitat

Hi! I've just ordered my FunPilot. I can't read german user guide.
So my question is: Can you explain how do this Upgrade?

I have X-3D-BL with X-ACC and nearly FunPilot Wink

I would want to know...

1)Step to follow to remove old x-3d and install Funpilot.
Best solution to upgrade the new firmware for FunPilot without error. For example: upgrade the new x-base firmware before remove x-3d...etc.

2)Firmware to upgrade (in the right succession if there is one...)

3)Why exist two FunPilot firmware: "including" and "no including settings"?

Thanks a lot! Titta

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-27 (So), 19:59    Titel: Re: X-3D-BL upgrade: FunPilot installation Antworten mit Zitat

tittap123 hat folgendes geschrieben:
1)Step to follow to remove old x-3d and install Funpilot. Best solution to upgrade the new firmware for FunPilot without error. For example: upgrade the new x-base firmware before remove x-3d...etc.

Upgrade the BL-Controller to V2.1
then upgrade the X-Base to V3.0 (if not already done)
Same as for the X-3D... if your X-3D works with it, the FunPilot will also. V2.1 for the BL-Controllers is however mandatory if you want to have full functionality.

Zitat:
2)Firmware to upgrade (in the right succession if there is one...)

The same as you would use for the X-3D...


Zitat:
3)Why exist two FunPilot firmware: "including" and "no including settings"?

Because one includes the settings and one leaves the settings on the FP as they were.


And I'll add a question 4:
Zitat:
4) Should I upgrade the FunPilot at all?

No... the FunPilot comes with the most current firmware (V1.0) right now. There is no need for upgrading the same firmware to the FunPilot, as it is already installed.
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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-27 (So), 20:50    Titel: Antworten mit Zitat

Thanks Falkor!

Another little questio about "in English" button on the menù bar.


When I click on the button appear the first translated page of the thread. But when I try to go on the other pages of discussion it returns always on the first page...

What's going on? I tried with Firefox and Explorer. Result the same.... Thanks Titta

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-28 (Mo), 09:27    Titel: Antworten mit Zitat

Hi tittap,

tend2it already alerted me to the problem. Something in the URL parameters for the babelfish translator seems to have changed that breaks this... I'm looking into it, hope I can fix it.

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-28 (Mo), 13:06    Titel: Antworten mit Zitat

Thanks DAWIDI! Wink It's very important because more trouble are solved in german topic. Sometimes news are in german and translation is the only way!

Titta

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-29 (Di), 23:51    Titel: FunPilot is ON Antworten mit Zitat

Hy! FunPilot is arrived today...
I've mounted it immediately and I connected x-usb without connect the battery to watch parameters.

All the parameters in ACCMODE-HHMODE-DATAFUSION/MISC are preset on "1". It's normal or I must upload a set of parameters?

Thank's Titta

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-30 (Mi), 00:27    Titel: Antworten mit Zitat

This is not normal. Are you sure you correctly connected to the FP? Are software and hardware version and battery voltage of the FP shown correctly?
All settings set to 1 is next to impossible if you connected to the FP correctly.
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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-30 (Mi), 08:58    Titel: Re: FunPilot is ON Antworten mit Zitat

tittap123 hat folgendes geschrieben:
Hy! FunPilot is arrived today...
I've mounted it immediately and I connected x-usb without connect the battery to watch parameters.

All the parameters in ACCMODE-HHMODE-DATAFUSION/MISC are preset on "1". It's normal or I must upload a set of parameters?

Thank's Titta


it's not possible to connect x-usb/ Funpilot without battery to watch parameters !!!!! It's not the same like the old X-3D.
You have to follow the instructions of X-Control :

1) Connect the USB module to the OSP/Fun-Pilot
2) Switch X-Base on
3) Serial port:
4) Push this button ("connect")

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-30 (Mi), 15:33    Titel: x-bl + Funpilot does't take off Antworten mit Zitat

Hello all,
I received my funpilot and I have installed it following all the points above but the x-ufo doesn't take off.

If I switch on the x-ufo the led green is fixed and the yellow blinks.
Then if I move the throttle stick to the bottom left to start the engines
I have 2 random cases:

1) the yellow led becomes fixed and the x-ufo does nothing.
2) the engines turn on, then if I give it more throttle, the engines turn off and the yellow led becomes fixed.

I have seen some other random cases of leds combination Shocked Shocked but I hope to not see they more!! Confused

I don't know if there are other settings to do on the funpilot.
Unfortunately i don't understand German.
I tried to translate the manual through google but it is incomprehensibles. Shocked

Please, can someone give me help ?
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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-30 (Mi), 16:11    Titel: Re: x-bl + Funpilot does't take off Antworten mit Zitat

NewWayToFly hat folgendes geschrieben:
Hello all,
I received my funpilot and I have installed it following all the points above but the x-ufo doesn't take off.
..........................
Please, can someone give me help ?
Thanks


Before take off you must hear one to four beeps (made by motors) which explains what is your choice of setting. To choose between the four settings, you have to do it after power on, by put the joystick of picht and rool at left/up (fast) at right/up (medium)at right/down (slow) and at left/down (extrem) with throttle in max position (up).

After to choose a setting, when you switch on the X-base you can hear one to four beeps.

And now I explain the LED :

red :Initialisation
red/yellow blinking : X-base or X-BL engines unknown
red/yellow and green blinking : no reception and no choice of setting
yellow and green blinking : no choice of setting
yellow blinking/ green : ready to fly and choice of setting known
yellow blinking : X-base in setup
yellow/red : trim reset
yellow: trim saved.

Do not forget to flash the last firmware of X-BL V2.1

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-30 (Mi), 20:53    Titel: Antworten mit Zitat

falkor hat folgendes geschrieben:
This is not normal. Are you sure you correctly connected to the FP? Are software and hardware version and battery voltage of the FP shown correctly?
All settings set to 1 is next to impossible if you connected to the FP correctly.


@Falkor & orangilabodoh:

I make a mistake! I haven't connect the battery...

I have the first flight today!

Ok thanks! Now I have another question:

There are four mode: slow, medium ..ect

In every mode I have ACC MODE/HH MODE/DATAFUSION/MISC

I can't find X-ACC channel (before FP it was on channel 5; on; off; etc) Where I can find it?

Another question is: what is "three-way switch" in height control switch?

Thanks for helping me! Titta

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-30 (Mi), 21:17    Titel: Antworten mit Zitat

three way (by default, on channel6) means, that values of channel6 below middle -> HHmode. Values of channel 6 somewhere around middle -> ACC, values above the middle -> ACC+ higth control.

in the settings, you can either swith to the former known 2-channel switching mode.

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-30 (Mi), 21:19    Titel: Antworten mit Zitat

tittap123 hat folgendes geschrieben:
falkor hat folgendes geschrieben:
This is not normal. Are you sure you correctly connected to the FP? Are software and hardware version and battery voltage of the FP shown correctly?
All settings set to 1 is next to impossible if you connected to the FP correctly.


@Falkor & orangilabodoh:

I make a mistake! I haven't connect the battery...

I have the first flight today!

Ok thanks! Now I have another question:

There are four mode: slow, medium ..ect

In every mode I have ACC MODE/HH MODE/DATAFUSION/MISC

I can't find X-ACC channel (before FP it was on channel 5; on; off; etc) Where I can find it?

Another question is: what is "three-way switch" in height control switch?

Thanks for helping me! Titta


You can switch from mode "HH" to "ACC + altitude control" by commutating channel 5. I have not been able to set the mode ACC without altitude control, even by using channel 6.
The mode "ACC + altitude control" is not recommended for "take off".
This mode must be switched only after take off with throttle at 50%, otherwise X-ufo will be stuck at ceiling !!

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-30 (Mi), 22:26    Titel: Channel... Antworten mit Zitat

Thanks @tschenningsm & @orangilabodoh

Now is more clear but: I have an Mx-12 with 6 CH

During first flight with FP i can notice higth control behaviour using CH6.

But using CH5 (with CH6 = 0) It seems always in ACC MODE .

Is correct?

@orangilabodoh: Where had you found FP led pattern? I'm looking for a English Manual Wink

Thanks Titta

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BeitragVerfasst am: 2008-07-30 (Mi), 23:38    Titel: Re: Channel... Antworten mit Zitat

tittap123 hat folgendes geschrieben:
Thanks @tschenningsm & @orangilabodoh

Now is more clear but: I have an Mx-12 with 6 CH

During first flight with FP i can notice higth control behaviour using CH6.

But using CH5 (with CH6 = 0) It seems always in ACC MODE .

Is correct?

@orangilabodoh: Where had you found FP led pattern? I'm looking for a English Manual Wink

Thanks Titta


It's the same for me. (I have MX-12 transmitter)
I translated in english the section 1.2.4 of user'manual ("LED Muster auf dem X-3D-FunPilot"), page number 7

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